[Equip] Mid-Split Enabled Device List Has Been Updated (04/08/24)

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[Equip] Mid-Split Enabled Device List Has Been Updated (04/08/24)

Hats off to Hitron for getting their 2.5Gbps modem added so quickly.

EDIT: rolled back to just Hitron CODA as of 9/20/23. Updated image added.

9/27/23 EDIT: Updated list is out with CODA56 and CM2050V back but no CM3000

11/2/23 EDIT: Updated list out with CM3000 and Arris G54

11/30/23 EDIT: Updated list out with CM2050v removed and CBR750 added

2/20/24 EDIT: Ubiquiti UCI modem added to mid-split approved list

3/14/24 EDIT: Netgear CM2500 added to mid-split approved: »assets.xfinity.com/asset ··· ices.pdf

4/8/24 EDIT: New approved list is out but no visible changes: »assets.xfinity.com/asset ··· ices.pdf

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Re: [Equip] Mid-Split Approved Device List Has Been Updated

A couple of Netgear modems have been added too! I believe they use Broadcom chipsets, so now people who want to avoid Intel chipsets and have a customer-owned modem with fast uploads have guaranteed options.

Still waiting on my S33. But if other Broadcom modems are being approved it shouldn't be far behind, you'd think.

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Did not post the complete list so here is the rest that are approved.

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said by Devious:

Did not post the complete list so here is the rest that are approved.

Those are not mid-split enabled. Those are just their generally recommended devices because they have very little network issues with them. This thread was only about mid-split customer devices.

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They are approved you just don't know about yet....guess you do now.

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No, it's an entirely separate list. Your list includes a D3.0 device that is not capable of supporting Comcast's midsplit deployment.

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said by badtlc4:

Those are not mid-split enabled.

All 3.1 modems support mid-split by default. It's a required part of the 3.1 spec.

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said by Anonf644f :

said by badtlc4:

Those are not mid-split enabled.

All 3.1 modems support mid-split by default. It's a required part of the 3.1 spec.

I'll repeat, they are not mid-split "enabled" on Xfinity. The capability is irrelevant. Take your issues up with the modem vendors if you are not happy about that.

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Okay, where is the standalone CM2000? That is very strange the EMTA is listed however.

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said by strykerzr350:

Okay, where is the standalone CM2000? That is very strange the EMTA is listed however.

The CM2000 currently falls under "compatible" but not recommended nor mid-split enabled.

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So they're calling it "Next Gen Speed Tier" ?

And off topic but the MB8600 is "Recommended" but the MB8611 is not? Yeah sure, this is a good list.

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said by jbob:

So they're calling it "Next Gen Speed Tier" ?

And off topic but the MB8600 is "Recommended" but the MB8611 is not? Yeah sure, this is a good list.

The MB8611 is "compatible." The "recommended" list is compiled from their network data. The devices that show up under "recommended" are merely devices that their systems indicate have less issues than other devices. They are not clear how the data is collected, weighted and evaluated. So some devices may not be recommended for superficial reasons due to number of devices in use. We dont really know. But Xfinity is not saying anything other than what their empirical data shows.

Here is the quote from the list:

What is a recommended device?

We regularly monitor device performance and recommend those that help deliver the fastest speeds, lowest latency,
least packet loss and increased reliability on our Xfinity 10G Network. We refresh our recommendations quarterly
based solely on the network performance data – they are not influenced by manufacturers.

We strongly encourage customers interested in owning their devices to purchase them new from reputable
sources. New devices provide more reliability, including manufacturer support for performance and security related
issues. These devices have proven to perform better on our network.

And just to comment specifically on the MB8611, I did try one a year ago and it was problematic. I actually tried two. It had reboot issues and regular errors in the logs. Changed to a CM1100 and had zero issues.

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Heh, noticed a typo on the upcoming Ubiquiti modem. A whole 2.32 megabits per second!

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So what makes the EMTA any different? That is an asinine statement from them.

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said by strykerzr350:

So what makes the EMTA any different? That is an asinine statement from them.

If you have to ask that question, you are not tall enough to understand the answer (which has been provided in another thread on exactly this same issue).

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Thanks for posting this information. The highest Xfinity upload speed I am aware for their cable service is 200 Mbps. I wonder what the implication is of showing upload speeds of 455 Mbps and higher?

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I don't click on every thread on here. That's kinda of a moot point.

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Anyone notice that the CM3000 on the list? A new modem from Netgear? Looks like it is a real thing and not a typo:

»www.cox.com/content/dam/ ··· nual.pdf

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said by retnbmn:

Thanks for posting this information. The highest Xfinity upload speed I am aware for their cable service is 200 Mbps. I wonder what the implication is of showing upload speeds of 455 Mbps and higher?

A sign of things to come? Lets hope.

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I'm patiently waiting for a consumer grade high split modem. Hopefully the CM3000 is approved for high split as well. I love my CM2000, it's the most rock solid consumer modem I have ever used.

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said by ClockerXP:

Anyone notice that the CM3000 on the list? A new modem from Netgear? Looks like it is a real thing and not a typo:

»www.cox.com/content/dam/ ··· nual.pdf

Yes, there have been rumors about both the CM3000 and CM3050V for some time. Nothing on the Netgear web sites I can find. Yet, Cox has it on theirs.

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said by kitsap:

Yes, there have been rumors about both the CM3000 and CM3050V for some time. Nothing on the Netgear web sites I can find. Yet, Cox has it on theirs.

They showed up on the CableLabs list, and then never seemed to show up for public purchase. The rumor (which was based on someone on some forum saying that they were beta testing it) was that during testing some issue was identified, and Netgear was going to do have to make some fixes.

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Wouldn't surprise me if Comcast doesn't certify the Ubiquiti CM, given that it will probably include more advanced diagnostic tools and settings than what we're accustomed to.

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It's on the list, it's just not "recommended".

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Yes and I believe the excel file list that was circulating showed the CM3000 as being 'high split'. I wonder if a modem that is 'high split' is also 'mid split'? I would surmise that it can since it is showing up on the Comcast list. Unless Comcast is doing 'high split' as well as 'mid split'.

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Surely it's an oversight the CM2000 not getting the mid split approval. I don't see the difference between it and the EMTA equivalent other than having phone capabilities.

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said by strykerzr350:

Surely it's an oversight the CM2000 not getting the mid split approval. I don't see the difference between it and the EMTA equivalent other than having phone capabilities.

The list is far from finished. Anything that's not there now doesn't mean it won't be eventually.

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said by strykerzr350:

Surely it's an oversight the CM2000 not getting the mid split approval. I don't see the difference between it and the EMTA equivalent other than having phone capabilities.

They have different firmware versions so the modems have to go through the Comcast testing process separately.
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Never mind. Deleted.

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